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drupal · Apr 18, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Program Ftw

Needleshot is horrible DPS.

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

I love it <3

XvArchonvX · Apr 18, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Program Ftw

Needleshot is horrible DPS.

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

If you use it strictly by itself the dps isn't great, but when used with a good damage buff (prep, weapon spell, or enchant), the DPS is amazing, especially since the last buff it recieved. The true strength of this skill is that it can let you pump out arrows at an incredibly fast refire rate.

pingu666 · Apr 19, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

i think with glass arrows, conjure whatever/vamp u can get pretty nasty dps with needling shot.

i used conflagoration and a vamp bow, and i think u can hit 60dps~ with needling.

30+5+19+15 or something like that
duelshot and maurders can hit for over 100 that buffed up.
brutal weapon and forked arrow would be pretty painful too.

screaming shot might be worthwhile too, depends how many slots u got and average time to death

/a for augry of death, if u must have a deep wound

pingu666 · Apr 19, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

i think with glass arrows, conjure whatever/vamp u can get pretty nasty dps with needling shot.

i used conflagoration and a vamp bow, and i think u can hit 60dps~ with needling.

30+5+19+15 or something like that
duelshot and maurders can hit for over 100 that buffed up.
brutal weapon and forked arrow would be pretty painful too.

screaming shot might be worthwhile too, depends how many slots u got and average time to death

/a for augry of death, if u must have a deep wound

Nilator · Apr 19, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

That is the beauty of Guildwars, you can change your attributes when ever your in a city. It's basically equivelant to an Inn in WoW. You can change your skills to be a beastmaster one time, interrupter next time, trapper the next, back to interrupter. You can do whatever you wish.

Evilsod · Apr 20, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingu666

i think with glass arrows, conjure whatever/vamp u can get pretty nasty dps with needling shot.

i used conflagoration and a vamp bow, and i think u can hit 60dps~ with needling.

30+5+19+15 or something like that
duelshot and maurders can hit for over 100 that buffed up.
brutal weapon and forked arrow would be pretty painful too.

screaming shot might be worthwhile too, depends how many slots u got and average time to death

/a for augry of death, if u must have a deep wound

Or... you know.... you could NOT gimp your entire skillbar by making it revolve around Conjures.

Needling Shot + Glass Arrows is fairly decent DPS, works nicely against dazed targets too. Speaking from a strictly PvE standing point obviously... Was proving its worth yesterday in GoP, Needling Shot hitting for 71 + 5 vampiric damage each arrow.

Marverick · Apr 20, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Conjures are kinda bad especially since they do elemental damage; Needling and Glass Arrows are armor-ignoring.

Although Spirit's Strength + Needling Shot does more damage at the cost of poorer energy management and no IAS.

Omar_Sharif · Apr 20, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

TOUCHER is imho one of the best dps ranger

pingu666 · Apr 20, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Or... you know.... you could NOT gimp your entire skillbar by making it revolve around Conjures.

Needling Shot + Glass Arrows is fairly decent DPS, works nicely against dazed targets too. Speaking from a strictly PvE standing point obviously... Was proving its worth yesterday in GoP, Needling Shot hitting for 71 + 5 vampiric damage each arrow.

mark of rodgort on zhed would make it worthwhile, specialy with conflag and bone fiends? settin stuff ablaze

how did u buff your needling shot damage upto 71?

the bigger issue with my build is the reliance on buffs for damage, prebattle casts are annoyingly long. its what i really disliked about the dervish too..

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 20, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Melandrus arrows

Tons of Pve and PVP is based on enchantments

go dual shot someone with an enchantment and watch you get +27 +27 on both arrows

its fun. Used to run it a lot in ab and with one dual shot you'll be doing about 100+ dmg on a 60 al caster

AnonTerror · Apr 20, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Rangers don't have very good upfront DPS. If you want that, make a warrior, or a dervish, or an assassin, or a dervish. Where the ranger shines is it's ability to strike from a range, spread conditions (Poison, bleeding, burning, daze, crippled, blind) that are easily to apply and aren't too situational, having the best interupts in the game, and having the best stances (Whirling defence and Natural stride beat the pants off anything else) for surviving. Also throw in a decent self heal in troll unguent, useful spirits, and traps.

Marverick · Apr 21, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by Omar_Sharif

TOUCHER is imho one of the best dps ranger

ew.....
65 damage in 1.5 seconds? ~43 DPS..... terrible

A Dervish or Sin can easily top that... heck even a Ranger with a proper build can top that.

malko050987 · Apr 21, 2007, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Trappers are the best DPS

. With the Echo build, you have 9*26 = 234 per second, for 10 seconds, which makes 2340 damage. Nothing can survive that, especially if you add a crippling trap.

Amy Awien · Apr 21, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Afaik trap damage is specced against 0 AL, so it's about 1/4 of that.

malko050987 · Apr 21, 2007, 11:18 AM // 11:18

Bladed Aatxes take 26 dmg per second from a Dust...

pingu666 · Apr 21, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

what about the time to set the traps? also fixed location, interuptablilty etc make it a poor choice to use in group. for farming its just like dumping 20+firestorms in the same instant, so it is effect

Amy Awien · Apr 21, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by malko050987

Bladed Aatxes take 26 dmg per second from a Dust...

Yeah, I see, you are right, [wiki]Dust Trap[/wiki] is "the only trap that ignores armor".

stormrunner · Apr 22, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

I'm going to refute what people have been saying about bow dps. Lets keep in mind that dps means *everything* that causes health loss over time. With that in mind, lets take burning arrow as an example...

Assuming a ranger has at least 14 points in marksmanship (a reasonable assumption), burning arrows deals 5 seconds of burning. Thats 14 damage per second for 5 seconds(70 damage in all). Since burning arrows has a five second recharge time, a ranger can almost constantly keep an enemy on fire. Thats pretty good considering we just ignored the added damage from burning arrows, preparations, and any shots the ranger may have fired within the 5 second period.

I call that pretty good dps

SnipiousMax · Apr 22, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53

^ Not when an auto-attacking warrior with no skills/IAS/Buffs/or mods can pump out over 30 dps.

ClarkeDodd · Apr 22, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Rangers arent too good without buffs/ skills , but they are very strong when considering preparations and speed increased etc.

So Rangers can have great DPS if used correctly